January 04, 2004
I Want My Wi-Fi Telephony

Last February I requested a small, cheap mobile device that:

  • notifies me when I'm within range of an open wi-fi (wireless Internet) access point, and:
  • allows me to call any telephone number on the planet, nearly free of charge, whenever I'm within range of a Wi-Fi signal, via a simple numeric-keypad interface.

    Back then, the hardware necessary to make this a practical reality wasn't cheap and it wasn't widely in use. Now it is. Many of the most popular PDAs (personal digital assistants), like my new Palm Tungsten C, provide Web browsers and high-bandwidth wi-fi Internet connectivity.

    We have the hardware. We have the infrastructure -- the cities are becoming saturated with wi-fi hotspots, many of them free for public use, and robust Internet telephony networks have been in use for years.

    And we have the client software -- but it hasn't been designed for the right devices. A handful of firms like Dialpad and Net2Phone already provide cheap PC-to-phone voice service. But none of them seem to have ported their client applications for use on PDAs.

    What are these firms waiting for? For a very modest investment in resources, Dialpad and its competitors can make a very compelling offer: global telephone service on the go for prices less than one-tenth what you pay for mobile or even land-line phone service.

    Dialpad: I have my portable wi-fi telephone and I'm ready to pay you to use it. What are you waiting for?

    Posted by sean at January 04, 2004 11:48 AM | TrackBack (0)
  • Comments

    You are very close to your wish! Calypso Wireless has a cell phone that can be used in wifi when available and cell when close to cell tower. It gives you the opportunity to use the convenience of cell + the cheapness of
    telephony and can switch as they say seamlessly. Imagine good bye to the land line! For sure!
    I can wait.

    Posted by: Robert Hernandez on January 4, 2004 02:59 PM

    Wouldn't this require a HUGE WiFi mesh network? Am I missing something?

    Posted by: house of real estate on January 11, 2004 12:38 AM

    h.o.r.e.,

    Sean isn't requiring the phone to work everywhere, just wherever wifi is available. And it's certainly available in more places than you realize (which is why the detection and notification part of the device is important).

    p.s. Sean, congrats on joining the SmartMob.com team!

    Posted by: Dav on January 11, 2004 11:54 AM

    (What Dav said.)

    Thanks, Dav...

    Posted by: sean on January 11, 2004 01:13 PM

    /me wonders when mobile phone masts will be replaces by wi-fi masts

    Posted by: milk on January 12, 2004 11:39 AM

    Why hasn't anyone mentioned Free World Dialup? Isn't this almost what you are looking for? www.pulverinnovations.com/wisip.html

    Posted by: elf on January 12, 2004 08:52 PM

    Elf, that service looks intriguing, but according to the documentation it only works with other special SIP Internet phones; you can't use it to call standard telephone numbers.

    Posted by: sean on January 12, 2004 09:12 PM

    Yup Sean, that is right.. you either have to use one of their 800 num gateways and use a 'calling card' through the 800 num gateway.. or set up your own SIP gateway that bridges to a analog phone line.

    That is the going to be the biggest struggle with VOIP. That 'last mile' bridging to standard analog. That is why we'll probably have to 'pay' for VOIP service beyond our broadband charges

    Posted by: elf on January 13, 2004 07:36 AM

    Elf:

    But Net2Phone, Dialpad and others have already solved that problem of bridging to standard analog. Sure it's not free, and to be honest I suspect that they're working with pretty big profit margins, but still the costs are much cheaper than what you pay with standard cellular mobile phones, or even with land-line phones for long distance.

    -Sean

    Posted by: Sean on January 13, 2004 11:45 AM

    Been calling Europe and Latin America for .10 per minute using Net2Phone. Look forward to using a cell phone. I hear net2phone is partnering with cable to offer voip.

    Posted by: bob on January 13, 2004 05:19 PM

    Been calling Europe and Latin America for .10 per minute using Net2Phone. Look forward to using a cell phone. I hear net2phone is partnering with cable to offer voip.

    Posted by: bob on January 13, 2004 05:19 PM

    QOS will be a big deal. What happens when you hop on a hotspot where the guy only has 512k DSL and 5 other people are talking?

    Posted by: chris on February 14, 2004 11:35 PM

    I work as a Halifax Real Estate Agent in Nova Scotia, Canada and I was told that blogs were discussions on specific topics which made me interested in searching specifically for a real estate blog. So being new to the computer, I did a search in the search engines on a "professional real estate blog" and I found your professional web blog. It is a very interesting way to see what trends and technology are happening in the real estate market in other parts of the world besides Halifax. I am considering a blog for myself if I can understand the technology of operating a blog and from what I see I am somewhat hesitant right now even though it was interesting reading.

    Respectfully yours
    James B. ,
    Halifax Real Estate Agent

    Posted by: Halifax Real Estate on February 24, 2004 09:28 AM

    Check out the Treo 600 and see http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/35660
    and
    http://www.computerweekly.com/Article111644.htm
    and
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-895033.html
    and....

    Nokia brought out a radio card for hybrid GPRS/802.11b connections in 2002.
    http://www.computerweekly.com/Article110222.htm

    The Calypso hybrid phone is GSM/GPRS/802.11b
    and China Telecom recently decided to use them
    http://www.stargeek.com/item/33693.html
    Calypso first worked with the T-Mobil network
    in the US
    http://www.newswireless.net/articles/031129-tmobile.html

    Motorola/NEC either have already or are near
    announcing a hybrid phone
    http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2003/082203-motorola_and_nec_america_are_co.htm

    For something inbetween a phone and a PDA, check
    out the Nokia Communicator 9500
    http://www.i4u.com/article1185.html

    Finally, I've been using VoIP on my Sony Vaio
    laptop for three years. The Vaio is small enough
    to pass for a book but large enough to type on.
    I use the Callserve service
    http://www.callserve.com/Homepage.asp

    This lets me call anywhere to anywhere for USD.05/min. This is especially useful when,
    for instance, I am sitting in the Deutsche Bahn
    train station lounge in Germany and calling
    Switzerland. If you use a US card, you have no
    idea what you are being charged to call from
    one European country to another. It can be
    in the USD 7-8.00 range! Ask me how I know.
    With the WiFi/CallServe solution, I use my
    laptop, which I carry with me when I travel
    to reliably make all of my calls at a known price.

    Posted by: Charles on March 3, 2004 03:38 PM

    Hi all,

    Check out our web site, we help people with VoIP, SIP, etc.

    Also check out http://www.xten.com/ they make a SIP based VoIP softphone for the iPaq handhelds. I use their products for my PCs, but I talk to several Americians on a regular basis via VoIP over the Internet, and they are using the iPaq version....they love it.

    Posted by: Vaughn Munden on October 15, 2004 07:53 AM

    Also check http://www.zyxel.com/product/P2000W.html for a wireless SIP VoIP handset.

    Posted by: Vaughn Munden on October 15, 2004 07:56 AM

    As for QoS on the Internet, that is not available today. It is technically available on the Internet routers, but service providers have yet to deploy QoS based services. Now, that said, I make VoIP calls on the Internet on a daily basis, and seldon have an issue. If I do have a audio quality issue, it is because the far end user has poor resources (ie, computer, ISP, etc.) SIP based VoIP will become very big in the next few years.

    Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    Cheers,
    Vaughn

    Posted by: Vaughn Munden on October 15, 2004 08:00 AM
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