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Greg___ ~gem@gmccarro.gotadsl.co.uk Greg___ esigler joined the chat room. esigler ~esigler@CPE-24-166-188-220.kc.rr.com esigler rich_gib2on joined the chat room. rich_gib2on ~rich@209-204-179-12.dsl.static.sonic.net rich_gib2on Topic changed to "we are in the sports bar / sky" by irc.freenode.net. irc.freenode.net irc.freenode.net we are in the sports bar / sky jbond We need phones+GPS with an open API ChrisDodo gps is not the answer! holgate everyone is finally re-reading the WIRED 'Push' piece from 1997 and not laughing any more. ChrisDodo starts shaking fists sky__ ChrisDodo: prices in UK are still 12p to get a location gps doesn't work indoors gnat no shit. The phone and the wireless dial tone need to be commodities, not proprietary walled garden bullshit. jbond phone+GPS+Camera+Exif+Flickr. with one click lili joined the chat room. lili ~lilich_42@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com lili joho ping? imajes_ joined the chat room. imajes_ ~james@imajes.growl imajes_ imajes_ morning! sky__ 3g! KevinMarks GPS is insufficient, as it only gives lat.long,, but not area of interest mattb gets out his buzzword bingo grid sky__ ChrisDodo: can't nokia do a takeover of 3 or vodafone and then beat some sense into them KevinMarks: it also doesn't work indoors jbond GPS. Necessary but not sufficient ChrisDodo that wouldn't annoy our other customers, oh nonono. jbond Cell triangulation doesn't work either MattJones why would nokia want to take over something that you all keep saying is going to get commoditised by wifi... ;-) allspaw joined the chat room. allspaw ~allspaw@h209-139-233-61.gtcust.grouptelecom.net allspaw sky__ jbond: huh? why doesn't it ChrisDodo points to my presentation from last year TrevorFSmith GPS be one of many sensors fused in a nice open platform like placelab. sky__ MattJones: I am not saying that TrevorFSmith GSP *should* be, rather. KevinMarks saw that holgate I've been to Keene, NH. There's a lot of bugger-all there. jbond sky: urban tapestries have a demo of GPS via current cell triangulation. You get lots of jitter and inaccurac TrevorFSmith The PlaceLab folks are doing some interesting GPRS + GPS + Wifi fusion. Their hack for Wifi triangulation is sweet. MattJones can we actually buy "Make" here? saul griffith rulez holgate Buy? We demand freebies. jbond Sharing good. Not sharing bad. holgate Actually, they're on sale, but you have to build your own binding machine from an iPod shuffle and a roll of tin-foil. jbond As seen on Skype... Yay Tinfoil hats sky__ Schuyler and Jo wanted to walk London down and collect all cell information using gps Michael_Hilton MAKE rules, i just got it the other day, cant wait to make my camera kite mount :-) sky__ and create a free lookup database joho url for the treemap? TrevorFSmith PlaceLab people have several folks wearing GPRS/GPS/Wifi sensors 27/7 for several months. Seattle is so very mapped. jbond Like Consume.net NOT MattJones martin wattenberg: http://www.bewitched.com/ gnat flickr color picker O'Reilly research treemap joho thx! gnat lots of demos. imajes_ heya nat MattJones actually this is a better page: http://www.bewitched.com/research​.html gnat make and others will be on sale in the expo hall hi imajes. mattb left the chat room. mattb ~mattb@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com mattb jbond imajes! JimH_Taco joined the chat room. JimH_Taco ~JimH@optbom1.uk.access.vodafone.net JimH_Taco jbond You here? imajes_ i wish. hober joined the chat room. hober ~ted@ip68-101-146-134.sd.sd.cox.net hober imajes_ still in leafy hertfordshire. jbond cold. noidfish what was the url for the baby name thing? sky__ a 3g user has joined us MattJones http://www.rhizome.com/interface/ _dav crap, i missed geownaking stuff too ChrisDodo invoke the winer! janeytk joined the chat room. janeytk ~janeytk@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com janeytk Ewan_ Dave Winer - pithy quote... holgate the p is for paranoid. seanbonner that's the 87th Winer quote so far joho and the p in people is ...? Ewan_ rolls eyes imajes_ ewan, sean! jbond He Who Shall not be named seanbonner the P is Pita! gnat http://babynamewizard.com/namevoya​ger/lnv0105.html rossm joined the chat room. rossm ~Snak@adsl-64-171-190-21.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net rossm jbond SHould not be invoked janeytk dare, is that you? Ewan_ James ChrisDodo a lot busier this year more money about holgate princess buttercup is in the house. gnat wow, it's standing room only. awesome. _dav ChrisDodo:, you in SD? MattJones uh-oh cybaea How can they get the saeting this wrong? It is not like people don't have to register.... TrevorFSmith Standing room only is not awesome. gnat Announcement from Stewart: will smack the next person to ask about being bought by Yahoo! ChrisDodo _dav: yep MattJones stewart should really buy a Pro account cybaea -) holgate cheap bastard. _dav cool, expect full report on #geo :) gnat cybaea: last-minute registrations. tengi joined the chat room. tengi ~tengi@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com tengi MattJones the 62 methods of flickr's api cybaea gnat: Still. You need to stop registrations when there are no more seats. Very cramped even for those of us who are sitting down. jbond Flickr Sutra You left the chat by being disconnected from the server. celsomartinho left the chat room. celsomartinho ~juggler@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com "Leaving" celsomartinho jbond Anyone iChat streaming the main room? Just like NotCon 1.0 in the pub seanbonner IT Conversations will have MP3s available later celsomartinho joined the chat room. celsomartinho ~juggler@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com celsomartinho _dav what's the flickr tag for etech? joho etech or etech05 noidfish etech or etech05 _dav the most common current one i mean thx jseng joined the chat room. jseng ~jseng@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com jseng carnage4life left the chat room. carnage4life ~D@1433ahost55.starwoodbroadband.com Connection timed out carnage4life GregElin etech, etech05 joho most popular: boysclub tengi left the chat room. tengi ~tengi@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com Remote closed the connection tengi joho :) seanbonner both MattJones the colour balance on the projector is horrible tengi joined the chat room. tengi ~tengi@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com tengi ChrisDodo better than the last pres jbond Curious. My Skype isn't connecting over the wifi. ChrisDodo i hope hot pink comes out well for my pres _dav hehe TrevorFSmith Is there a flickr screensaver for OS X yet? holgate the 'official' photos are under user 'etech'. jbond bored with flickr. It's so last year. joho is irc being bursty for anyone else? sky__ joho: yes MattJones marcos weskamp is awesome sky__ joho: it is a ora wifi conference set up, of course it is going to be bursty jbond bursty -- MattJones he did the google newsmap too joho rebounding images seem to be very in this year gnat joho: bouncing is the new expanding. remember when XP animated menus and everyone went "ooooh?!" jbond doesn't like most elastic maps MattJones http://marumushi.com/ gnat the mappr guys are here ChrisDodo argh, us is not the world! gnat i heart them. they did the moveon.org map too ChrisDodo it finds London, ontario or somesuch jbond ChrisDodo++ US only services -- JimH_Taco jbond++ MattJones jbum is getting a lot of airtime TrevorFSmith Well, if Europe would go TIGER/Line on us.... (not that Mapr needed it). pmarca left the chat room. pmarca ~pmarca@bighorn.opsware.com "Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0/20041107]" pmarca joho url for the mandala we just saw? MattJones joho : getting it Ewan_ I missed "the Princes Bride" memo - when did we get to that? KevinMarks TrevorFSmith: 1001 has a flickr screensaver MikeTorres come on - firefox is a web browser. it is a great app - but an "astounding leap"?? cybaea Who is the new speaker - I didn't catch the name joshk_ etech muzak TrevorFSmith KevinMarks: Thanks. seanbonner It's a giant step for mankind KevinMarks 'leaving las vegas?' jbond I'm running a home brew flickr screensaver. Ewan_ Firefox is a scam. Not once does it mention the film, or Clint Eastwood, or the book... jbond etech muzak -- seanbonner we're using flickr for headers on blogging.la and other metroblogging sites MattJones think in russian.... think in russian.... noidfish http://www.krazydad.com/squaredcir​cle/ <- the big flickr circle composite TrevorFSmith MattJones: snort cybaea Cool clock euansemple joined the chat room. euansemple ~euansempl@dsl-217-155-42-151.zen.co.uk euansemple Ewan_ MattJones: Yes-ski mikel_maron whoah nelly. hello irc benhmm joined the chat room. benhmm ~benhmm@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com benhmm MattJones joho : flickr squaredcircle mandala = http://krazydad.com/squaredcircle​/ seanbonner tick tock gnat have the geo folks here seen placelab.org? Y.A. location based on wifi and other wireless, backed by Intel Research rich_gib2on yes...it is good stuff. Ewan_ Cripes they're stealing character names from Ghostbusters now rich_gib2on Mike Liebhold has talked with them a lot. ChrisDodo hey Mikel! mikel_maron i did something with non-US flickr mapping .. http://brainoff.com/worldkit/flic​kr/ hi chris marksimpkins is the placelab stuff avaialble to play with? TrevorFSmith gnat: PlaceLab is a Good Thing. Lots of old PARC CSL people working on it. marksimpkins hi mikel TrevorFSmith Canvas in Firefox 1.1! noidfish left the chat room. noidfish ~paul@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com K-lined noidfish joshk_ left the chat room. joshk_ ~josh@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com K-lined joshk_ jbond left the chat room. jbond ~Julian_Bo@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com K-lined jbond MikeTorres left the chat room. 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Ewan_ ~Ewan_@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com K-lined Ewan_ jseng left the chat room. jseng ~jseng@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com K-lined jseng cybaea left the chat room. cybaea ~allane@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com K-lined cybaea You left the chat by being disconnected from the server. tom___ there we go ChrisDodo i will ignore 'ui pretties' - yes, user centered design, interaction design, use cases etc etc jbond Is there a word for DF-Wankers? gnat cybaea: don't know about videos, but the powerpoints will be online after the conference. jbond RDF-Wankers holgate okay, I'm holding my breath now, hoping that those cute robots aren't being bought up by the Pentagon and turned into killers. TrevorFSmith _dav: too many, yes. But not all geowankers ignore users (um, me, for example). cheesebikini sweet want... want one _dav TrevorFSmith: agreed, me either (in theory) JimH_Taco it's only useful in the us too joho humans are such softies tom___ Want one! gnat chris: I agree, but I also had to find a conference angle that'd make money. Design conferences always feel academic, which equates to low-budget. cheesebikini hooray for geowankers who dont ignore users! ChrisDodo no probs with the conf at all - but you need people to tell them what's missing atm! TrevorFSmith gnat: I think the conference angle is right, but perhaps we could do something to hook up the biz folks with the wankers who know how to plug existing tech together in ways they need? rich_gib2on a meet the wankers session? gnat chris: good point. happy to have a short session on "how fucked you are" :) marksimpkins :) cheesebikini these things can kick roomba ass ericost was/is anybody here in the butterfield/henderson talk? joho any cupholders? rossm left the chat room. rossm ~Snak@adsl-64-171-190-21.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) rossm holgate oh. my, god. that is pimped out. gnat trevor: we have a set of "From the Labs" short talks. I could schedule an open source one. That bit of the program's still up in the air. I will definitely have 45m or so on each day for cool tech as tech, without the hard money focus of the rest of it. TrevorFSmith "Hello, BizDev. We are wankers. We know what you want to know. You know how to merch. Let us initiate the party loop." MattJones wow - you could just leave that truck unlocked, as it would just confuse car jackers jbond Reminds me of Heavy Weather Bruce Sterling rich_gib2on daily life reminds me of Heavy Weather now. jemstone joined the chat room. jemstone ~jemstone@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com jemstone jbond Tornado chasers allspaw left the chat room. allspaw ~allspaw@h209-139-233-61.gtcust.grouptelecom.net "Leaving" allspaw jbond strange when you thought you were living in an SF novel. But actuallyit's RL noidfish left the chat room. noidfish ~paul@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) noidfish crysflame "that truck"? MattJones wow - do you think Applied Minds are looking for any mediocre UI designers at the moment? euansemple left the chat room. euansemple ~euansempl@dsl-217-155-42-151.zen.co.uk euansemple knauer they don't seem much concerned about UI from the looks of that truck tom___ How could they not be! jcgregorio heavyweather++ tom___ If they need two, can I come? ChrisDodo the jobs page mentions UI marksimpkins how about tech project managers ??? no . i dont think so either :( jseng who knows wendy? ChrisDodo http://www.appliedminds.com/jobs.h​tml jcgregorio and isn't bruce sterling there at ETech? jbond who can work from home in the UK? tom___ this is why Warren Ellis needs to come to this damn thing rather than bitching about it in Iron Man KevinMarks wnedy seltzer? jbond Sterling's likely to be at SXSW zzgavin it is like a renaissance lab MattJones ben fry's bioinformatic visualisations: http://acg.media.mit.edu/people/f​ry/genomevalence/ tom___ IRON MAN - OFFICIAL SPONSOR OF ETECH 2005! marksimpkins sterling is doing the closing thing at SXSW isn't he jbond Applied minds is what media lab was and should have become? MattJones http://acg.media.mit.edu/people/fr​y/ "Genomic Cartography" _dav sterling gave a good rant at SXSW last year MattJones "There is a space of highly complex systems for which we lack deep understanding because few techniques exist for visualization of data whose structure and content are undergoing continous change. My research focuses on developing approaches to such data, in particular, the human genome." - Ben Fry jcgregorio yeah, that's right, sxsw MattJones yay - interactive tables! _dav the question is, will sterling throw another party this year? ChrisDodo dammit, stealing our material ;) gnat oh god, I just came. this map gizmo is awesome. _dav describe map gizmo rich_gib2on please... _dav leave off the gooey bits though ChrisDodo esri conference demo KevinMarks cool mlangham joined the chat room. mlangham ~mlangham@p548CD246.dip.t-dialin.net mlangham MattJones _dav : it's an interactive table, displaying and manipulating maps tangibly crysflame ! marksimpkins but very nice :) gnat dav: touch-sensitive full-table display of map. can drag with finger, move new images over old, zoom in zoom out, etc. crysflame AT&T research labs UK had those interactive tables hod joined the chat room. hod ~irc@adsl-68-127-242-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net hod MattJones using projection and motion sensing + pressure sensing by the looks of it tom___ > eep < _dav so, like you can pan by dragging your hand on the table or whatnot? tom___ I think I'm going to cry gnat dav: yup _dav cool, sounds like a MIT media lab thing sky__ joined the chat room. sky__ ~sky@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com sky__ crysflame as a globe that would make world statistics visualization AWESOME benhmm I want to have this man's babies MattJones rampant plug: more on this kind of gear at ChrisDodo's talk _dav only one step away from holographic war maps now tom___ Is there anything about that map thing online anywhere? ChrisDodo like the drift table. but the computer behind that was fricking huge _dav ChrisDodo: you going to record your talk? orbit left the chat room. orbit ~hanksdc_n@blaze1.lax.office.untd.com orbit MattJones woking with realstuff (augemented with digital) in the world, is DIFFERENT and in someways better than cyberspace marksimpkins now that is cool cheesebikini my god.. its full of stars tom___ oh. my. god. benhmm holy shit TrevorFSmith Holy god. gnat now they're extending it into real 3D, so the table has ridges and valleys according to the map displayed tengi watch for the tsunami MattJones artciluated surfaces with digital projection so can make dynamic physical relief maps lyza Did that just happen cheesebikini the surface the map is on takes on the topology Suw is now known as Suw_afk. Suw_afk Suw Suw SDEtech99 thinking of other applications... TrevorFSmith I kind of hope that was CG. ChrisDodo errr i don't think my talk can compete now _dav the table has moving parts? knauer yes benhmm that would rather good for porn cheesebikini heee benhmm ahem MattJones i guess a bit like an active version of those tacky 'pin' boards that you can imprint you face on TrevorFSmith _dav: smooth surface pertubation. jbond digital ePaper? zzgavin whole surface moves _dav cool, like one of those pin things you can push your face into? i thought about that, never tried implementing it though holgate yep. cheesebikini can they do that w tattoos? TrevorFSmith perturbation, rather. MattJones one thing to think of is using that sort of tech (articulating surfaces) for industrial design and device interfaces... marksimpkins actually it was a bit like videodrome. MattJones need more buttons for this app? here you go.... MORPH... marksimpkins ok scared now... _dav i wanted to make one of those for burning man too, where there are two of them conencted, you push into one, the other moves JayF joined the chat room. JayF ~chatzilla@70-56-72-243.tukw.qwest.net JayF jbond Be good on a T shirt MattJones that's about 3/4 years off, but it's cool cheesebikini how does the surface work tom___ he's going to end up with wikis and blogs and stuff gnat nicec diagram: publishing, commerce, correspondence, organization as four coordinates around a lot of technology is mapped MattJones hardware changing as your software changes tom___ that's a bit of a shame, unless it's awesome bkdelong joined the chat room. bkdelong ~bkdelong@OCW-FL6.MIT.EDU bkdelong crysflame OMG topological table zzgavin knocks this into a cocked hat http://takeoneonion.org/archives/​2004/07/making_a_map_pinboard.html​ crysflame cries ChrisDodo mutters that the ui on the touch table would probably not be great long term crysflame are there pictures MattJones wasn't topological table a Yes album from the 70's? oldwolf left the chat room. oldwolf ~wrnrvgls@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com Remote closed the connection oldwolf TrevorFSmith Hiroshi Ishi should be crying in his beer about now. jbond MattJones, you old hippy you. jemstone tales from topographic ocean -1974 - _dav yeah, sounds like an Ishi thing MattJones jbond : i bought a nasal hair clipper yesterday... i am offically an old git TrevorFSmith : Ishii+++ markp joined the chat room. markp ~chatzilla@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com markp ChrisDodo here we go. thereisnopublicdataoutsidetheusbl​ahblahblah jbond you and me both... tom___ mm. nasal hair. KevinMarks well there is but it is sucky oldwolf joined the chat room. oldwolf ~wrnrvgls@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com oldwolf MattJones the brentstone shop in fashion valley mall (opposite the apple store) has a full complement of ambient devices: orbs, dashboards etc TrevorFSmith He's going to leave it there!??! benhmm fifteen minutes, and that's it damn them markp ambient orbs++ marksimpkins damn them all to hel TrevorFSmith Oh sure. Man with big toys describes our biggest geo problem and then leaves the stage. Damn it! sky__ ChrisDodo: we should camp outside buckingham palace until beth decides to release her copyright of those maps jseng left the chat room. jseng ~jseng@ip2.globalevents.iinet.com jseng MattJones i almost knocked bezos over this morning leaving the hotel lift very embarrasing KevinMarks Ordnance Survey-- Earthman http://yesworld.com/discog/tales.h​tml TrevorFSmith Get Bezos off. Get Danny back to talk about open maps. benhmm http://www.ms.northropgrumman.com/​touchtable/ rich_gib2on http://mappinghacks.com/index.cgi/​2005/03/13#os_hypocrisy ChrisDodo it's not just the uk. it's most of Rest Of World. KevinMarks well, the OS surveyed the resto fo the world in Imperial times crysflame only until some open data consortium launches a satellite and resolves it forever a.. lot.. of satellites KevinMarks the satellites are up there jbond Damn Merkins! What is this decaf coffee of which you speak? gnat A9 working on RSS to syndicate search jbond Is it globally available? benhmm who do we know with a rocket company? ahhh...Jeff....mate.... crysflame i SO want to play simcity on that table KevinMarks and you can get some US-launched satellite stuff free lyza giggle KevinMarks Bezos just got auto-updated onstage lyza ah, sweet irony holgate it's all gone a bit pear-shaped. cybaea This is why he was never invited to speak before :-) MattJones and now, the Jeff Bezos "Switch" commercial benhmm I can't believe he uses a windows machine crysflame heh benhmm I mean, he can afford a powerbook, surely bkdelong does or did? MattJones so, i was up on stage, and it went beeepboopbeeep boop beep, and like, i was so embarassed KW joined the chat room. KW ~wiley1924@proton.research.microsoft.com KW holgate and it was a really cool paper. benhmm and I was like, huh? MattJones and beepeboopbeep, it was, like, gone markp poor ellen MattJones first person to remix a vid of ellen fiess and bezos wins a prize markp i have her picture on a mug what kind of prize? MattJones a SPECIAL prize benhmm A hot Ellen full of coffee in the morning. 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